Board Thread:Survivor: Skye Islands (Season 12)/@comment-24277959-20151016000829

Well fuck. This sucks being here. Let me be the first to say,

WELCOME TO HELL. YOU’RE IN MY WORLD NOW.

























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<p class="MsoNormal">UST KIDDING. It’s all good.

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<p class="MsoNormal">I just wanna open up saying congratulations to you three for reaching the end here. I mean that. In this game you have successfully managed to outlast 21 of the best players around here and nothing we here on the jury say can take away from that accomplishment, so be proud of that. However, note that I did not say outwit NOR outplay. You three, really only outlasted us. The fact of the matter is, I believe this season's best gameplayers are with me here on the jury.

<p class="MsoNormal">I know what you're already thinking, "how arrogant!!". Or "if they are why aren't they here at the end??". Well, relax. The best players do not always win their season, it’s an ideal I really hold true to and I think it applies here. Other jurors have better game credentials than you three in terms of the strategic moves they've made and the challenges they've won. It's really our fault on the jury because this is usually what happens on all-star seasons - the huge threats cannibalize themselves to no end and an Amber Brkich ends up winning the whole fucking thing.

<p class="MsoNormal">So I respect the fact that you guys have made it this far, but to sway me tonight you’ll have to SHOW ME and MAKE ME want to vote for you in this game. From my current perspective, I see a combined one immunity win, little to no strategic moves made, and a whole lot of voting in the minority among you three. So I’ll address you all individually. Just know that I do like you all personally, and I think you’re all phenomenal people. I may have came into this game as a brawn but I’m definitely looking at every facet of Survivor here while analyzing your gameplays.

<p class="MsoNormal">Now what I’ll say deviates from my own experience and that only. You may have done a lot to other people and say may have not spoken to me, so you’re not a social gamer in my mind. Or you may have talked a lot to me and shut yourself off from others. Or whatever. I believe that every juror should have their own criteria when it comes to voting and that it should mostly come from what they themselves experienced.

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<p class="MsoNormal">So let's start with Sarah.

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<p class="MsoNormal">I'll be very straightforward here and say you have an uphill battle at getting my vote. When I think of your game, I think of how post-swap Torrin completely blew up into a million pieces and how, instead of wanting to make a move and wanting to do something about it, you just watched them crumble internally and hope you weren't the next to go. I can say the same with Nuno, but I do think he at least fought to try to make things happen.

<p class="MsoNormal">Zane. Perry. Sam. Shot. Shot. Shot. Where were you these rounds?

<p class="MsoNormal">You came into this game as a ‘beauty’, a supposed social gamer. Yetttt, your first individual talk with me was on Day 36 of the game. And from what it felt like to me it was only to blow smoke up my ass and put on a façade of a finals alliance. You legitimately offered me a finals deal, accepted it, and reneged it all within the time lapse of a few days. Let me add, those days were the most crucial and trying days I’ve ever played in a while. I was so spent from the season, and for someone to just come up to me, offer sweet nothings, and dropkick me while I’m down, welllllll, it’s not a good feeling. You claimed the silence during F4 was getting to you, and that you already knew where I stood. SARAH, I was waiting for you. You initiated our first talks, followed up with them after, so PLEASE do not play the card where I did not say anything to you because I always wanted to be down with working with you. I generically hate saying ‘communication is a two way street’ right now but damnit, I was there to talk to at Final 4. However, I feel that you’re saying all of that about me ignoring you as a reason to justify what you did when in reality I was the target all along. You can just tell me if I was. What’s the truth?

<p class="MsoNormal">But honestly congrats for saying hi to me at the end of the game, lending me your hand, then doing a 180 and shank me. Awesome job.

<p class="MsoNormal">Also, I honestly just keep grouping you and Nuno too while evaluating your game. Whenever I think Nuno was going to do one thing, I believed you were going to do it as well. I feel like this is the case throughout the whole game minus the 6-4 Perry vote where you put his name down. So I also want to see yourself differentiate yourself from Nuno. Here are some questions/tasks.

<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2level1lfo1">1)      1)   Separate yourself from Nuno. Distinguish your game from his and tell me what aspects of the game you were better (or worse) than him in.

<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2level1lfo1">2)      2)   You received the least amount of votes against among this final 3. You only received my vote during the entire merge. Do you believe this is because you were saved for last among the Torrin alliance or did you have a role in this?

<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2level1lfo1">3)       3)  What was the point in offering me an endgame deal only for you to just shit on it? Did you offer Tyler something similar at Final 5? Had I won immunity last round, who were you going to target?

<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2level1lfo1">4)       4)  Rank the top 5 players this season. In this system, rate physical game out of 10, strategic game out of 20, and social game out of 20. Add em up and show me your top 5.

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<p class="MsoNormal">Next up is Tyler.

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<p class="MsoNormal">This one’s gonna be a bit tougher. Tyler, every time I have played on here or on the main, you were in the same cast as me. As the seasons progressed through time we have grown closer, and have managed to work ourselves further and further into this game together. I thought this would be it. We would finally team up and run this thing to the end.

<p class="MsoNormal">I was wholeheartedly expecting your vote at the round of 4. It’s crazy because I was so paranoid in situations where everything turned out alright for me. I at least thought you wouldn’t want to play Russian Roulette with your life in this game because had you and I voted differently you could have been 2-1-1’ed. The vote I expected the most backfired on me. I don’t know if I should be impressed by that or just disappointed.

<p class="MsoNormal">You have voted me out 3 times in the 3 seasons we’ve played together. Every single time I was voted out, I wanted your vote, I was hoping for it. I never got it back. Trust me, I know this is fundamental survivor, backstabbing is an obvious element in this game. I did something similar – Alex and I had a finals deal for quite a while but I backed out on that and broke my word. I was fully expecting not to get his vote but I had hope I had other votes. Think you can pull off the same? I keep going back and forth between being pissed off and accepting of my vote-off, this one in particular by your hand. When this happens to me over and over again by the SAME PERSON, you have to understand that me casting a vote for you is juuuuust a bit difficult in this scenario. Had I won immunity, I was going to vote out Nuno that round. I wanted you in there in the end with me even though I knew you had played a better game than Nuno and Sarah. I didn’t feel a need to back out on a finals deal in favor of two people I’ve rarely spoken to. You told me over and over how you didn’t trust Nuno or Sarah. Good set-up.

<p class="MsoNormal">HOWEVER, I am able to rip out emotions from these things and see the game you played outside of what you did last vote. From my most impartial perspective, you did play the best overall game among these finalists. In opposite fashion of Nuno and Sarah, you started kinda on the bottom but spent a majority of the merge in the majority. I am definitely going to hold value to the position you were in (and duration of) compared to Nuno and Sarah. I do believe that I helped you get there. I told you, “Tyler, let the big threats of Kilbride show out and take the heat for us, they’ll be the shields, and we’ll slide on through”. We did that successfully and we didn’t take any bullets when Szy and Joe got shot down. ALSO LOL THE JOE BLINDSIDE WAS A DRIVE BY.

<p class="MsoNormal">I’m juggling back and forth on this man. Make me want to vote you. Here’s what I got for you.

<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0level1lfo2">1)       1)  Explain my vote-off and the thought process leading into it. Did you ever consider it could backfire? Was it an obvious choice? Are you genuinely sorry for doing so?

<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0level1lfo2">2)      2)   You said you voted me out because I was the biggest threat? Explain to me how I was. This isn’t me wanting to have my ego stroked (okay maybe it is just a bit) but that was your explanation, so let’s hear it.

<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0level1lfo2">3)       3)  While you did receive a good amount of votes in the merge, you were able not to stick out as an obvious threat for quite some time after the back-to-back-to-back Torrin voteoffs. This was what I thought made our alliance duo click together as we both were able to dodge some fire. In our time working together, how much credit goes to you and how much credit goes to me?

<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0level1lfo2">4)      4)   Rank the top 5 players this season. In this system, rate physical game out of 10, strategic game out of 20, and social game out of 20. Add em up and show me your top 5.

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<p class="MsoNormal">Lastly, we have Nuno.

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<p class="MsoNormal">Alright. Here it goes. When I analyze your game, I see a shit ton of scrambling, a shit ton of ducking tribals and voteoffs, a shit ton of voting in the minority……….. and alas, a shit ton of '''luck. '''I’m sure this has probably been repeated a million times before but other people made moves and incorporated you in their gameplan. This wasn’t you masterminding Alex to give you his key or manipulating Domonique to give you her idol. No, this is you just standing there reaching your hand out to anything that would grab onto it.

<p class="MsoNormal">As I said before I do compare you and Sarah a lot because I (think?) you played this game as a duo. However you were a lot more proactive in wanting to make moves and progress your game when things went down. Hilariously enough though, the moves you made early on at merge really just sunk your game.

<p class="MsoNormal">Remember that Operation SZNU thing that Zane added me to? From my perspective, it looks like you completely abandoned Perry, and just threw a shit ton of votes on a possible SWING vote (Tyler) just because……….. Alex and I magically had idols, weren’t scrambling, and were gonna double play them to knock one of you out. JESUS. Trust me when I say that if Alex and I were somehow on the outs with idols in our pockets, we weren’t just gonna stand still, do nothing, and play them going into the next round down like 8-2 or 7-3 or whatever. Did it not cross your mind that if we weren’t saying shit, maybe it’s because people in your humongous split plan didn’t want to work with you?

<p class="MsoNormal">I KNOW you were more active in making moves compared to Tyler and Sarah. Your jury speech was a whole lotta “I failed at this but ya know what I tried!!”. What should I respect here? People that rarely make moves, or people that do but fail them in epic proportions.

<p class="MsoNormal">Cause you know what I think the biggest move among you 3 was? Tyler voting me out.

<p class="MsoNormal">However, Nuno, your underdog and come from behind story is actually kinda crazy, random, yet noteworthy since it got you here to the end. A lot of my decision to vote will depend on your performance this FTC, in fact, I believe you have the most to gain and the most to lose here.

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<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1level1lfo3">1)       1)  You are a social gamer (placed on the beauty tribe) but did not speak a word to me EVER in this game. Sarah lent her hand out, and even if she went back on her word, we did had some nice and genuine talks. You and me on the other hand, did not. Explain your intentions there and if I should try to get over that hump and possibly cast my vote for you.

<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1level1lfo3">2)      2)   As I said with Sarah, I really see you two as a duo. So same question I gave to Sarah, differentiate yourself from her and the games you two played. (Minus the Perry vote where she put your name down)

<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1level1lfo3">3)     3)    I believe you made more moves than Tyler and Sarah, however they weren’t GOOD moves, they were moves that turned out horribly wrong. Do you agree or disagree with this statement, and explain why.

<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1level1lfo3">4)      4)   Rank the top 5 players this season. In this system, rate physical game out of 10, strategic game out of 20, and social game out of 20. Add em up and show me your top 5.

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<p class="MsoNormal">Also, we’re not done here just yet. Anyways, this will be a bit tense, definitely dark-sided, so hold on here. This is a situation to me that has been on my mind ever since those last immunity results came out. I initially wanted to ask the hosts about it, but let’s have fun and do it here. This is something I WANT TO BE WRONG ABOUT and I hope I am.

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<p class="MsoNormal">Nuno, we’re in a skype chat with Tyler here as a host. On the day the challenge results were scheduled to come back, Tyler needed judges for the flags and asked around on our skype chat. Wesley accepted. Emma also accepted. He needed other people but then got a random third, that dude Nifty that’s doing whatever the fuck he is in Azerbaijan. I had a slight problem with Emma being a judge. I remember her earlier being all “yas nuno we’re gonna slay on the TAR org!!” or whatever the hell she said. Alright. A bit suspicious that she can be a judge. But it’s whatever, I let the judges judge. The results come out.

<p class="MsoNormal">Let’s just throw out some random facts here. Out of the three judges, Emma gave you the highest score among the three. Out of the three judges, Emma gave me my '''lowest score. BY FAR. '''Out of 30 points, I received a 23, a 22, and holy fucking shit, a 15. Yeah, way to shit on something I worked HOURS on. I appreciate that. Thank you so much. The score that Emma gave me is the VERY SAME SCORE Wesley gave Sarah’s flag, which, isn’t exactly comparable to mine (SORRY SARAH LOL BUT I THINK WE CAN BOTH AGREE WITH THAT CONCERNING OUR FLAGS).

<p class="MsoNormal">I think something was in the works here. I do not have a problem with you winning that portion of the challenge. Not at all. I’ve accepted my defeat and the day I lost we both gave each other our mutual respect because we gave it our all on that challenge. However, I have a problem on how I was BLOWN OUT on the flag portion on the challenge.

<p class="MsoNormal">I know it’s easy for any judge to say “it’s my opinion. We all have one. You can’t change my opinion”. That’s fine and I get that. I believe either of our flags could’ve won. Yours brought out more of a cartoon visual to focus on realism, while I focused more so on detail.

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<p class="MsoNormal">Buuuut I want everyone to look at this. This is an amazing race org, check the bottom team:

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<p class="MsoNormal">Sorry but, when there’s two people who converse with each other on a daily basis and are about to compete on an org as a duo, there’s bound to be some bias in the judging. I know. Don’t worry. “It’s blindly judged!” you may say.

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<p class="MsoNormal">This is difficult for me to say and like I said, I WANT TO BE WRONG ON THIS MATTER. I have already talked to two people anonymously concerning this. I will NOT REVEAL THEIR NAMES, but they have agreed on what I am about to say.

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<p class="MsoNormal">It is not that difficult for you Nuno, to go up to Emma when you found out she was judging, show her your flag, and ask her to rate your flag as highly as possible. Let’s take out Sarah’s flag, and go from Tyler-Nuno-Me. Nifty’s scores go 20-22-23. Wesley’s go 21-25-22. Emma’s go 14-27-15. That is an INCREDIBLE variety and it just so coincidentally came from someone you’re really close with. It is very possible that you called Emma or messaged her to tip this in your favor.

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<p class="MsoNormal">Nuno, I have one last thing to ask and hopefully you fulfill it.

<p class="MsoNormal">'''I want you to go on skype call with me and sharescreen your skype chat history, skype call history, and facebook chat history with Emma between the days of the challenge being posted and the results coming out. Show me that you didn’t tell her anything like asking to give your flag a good score or telling her to shit on the other flags and give them a bad score. Do this ASAP. '''

<p class="MsoNormal">'If you refuse to do this, you have absolutely no chance ''of getting my vote and nothing will ever change my mind that this certain judge was biased and that you may have told her to be as such. '''

<p class="MsoNormal">'''Please prove me wrong. In fact, I actually hope this is really straightforward, you show me, I apologize for doubting you, and we laugh at how dumb this was. '''

<p class="MsoNormal">'''Let me add that I do not want to make things around here uncomfortable by bringing this up. I know whenever things like ‘rigging!!’ or ‘cheating!!’ are brought up, there comes an instant dark cloud over the matter and I do not want that – so ideally this can be taken care of as shortly as possible and we can try to drop this as soon as possible. It can’t hurt to check. '''

<p class="MsoNormal">And if you ask why I care so much, well, at the end of the day that flag part did prevent us from going to a tiebreaker in the final immunity challenge. I am an extremely competitive individual, but with clarity on this, I can take my loss in stride.

<p class="MsoNormal">Also I do love running theories throughout my head. I called out the Norbert/NJ sockpuppet nonsense and he ran off since.

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<p class="MsoNormal">Now that that’s dealt with, once all the answers are posted, we crown a winner, all that, let me add congrats to you all once again. Game aside, you’re all fantastic people and we all contributed something to this phenomenal season. Thanks for the time in reading this, and try not to lose your mind dealing with my nonsense for one more time. Now let’s ride off to irrelevancy together everyone[= Until next time guys,

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<p class="MsoNormal">-Evan   <ac_metadata title="Evan&#039;s Jury Speech"> </ac_metadata>