Board Thread:Survivor 29: Hallasan/@comment-32233167-20180109071557

What it do, nerds. First off, I’d like to say congrats to you both, but in your speeches you both seemed to be accustomed to lying and I’m not going to stoop to lying by congratulating you two or saying I think either of you did a good job. As a jury member, there’s a few things I look at when determining my vote. Gameplay, social strength, and if I could say I’d be happy with voting for you to win. However, if one of those areas is poor, then it drags down my overall opinion. Both of you, I cannot say I would be happy voting for either of you. Both of you claimed to have great social strength, but I’m going to have to assume you’re lying, because there isn’t a single person on the jury that would say they rank either of you as even somewhat decent socially. I’ll be going over each of you individually, but I will say that almost no votes cast will be for one of you, they will be against one of you.

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Ally:

I’m not really even sure what to say. I had a lot higher hopes for you than what actually transcribed, and I saw something very, very ugly. What I see now is someone that doesn’t care who she hurts, doesn’t treat people like actual human beings, and sees everyone else as basically irrelevant as long as you achieve your goal. There were some fairly personal things that I’m not going to go into here, but I don’t know if our out of game friendship will really be the same after this is all done.

Let’s break down some things you’re saying.

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“Forming in-game bonds”

Whenever you said this, you could basically replace this with “I knew them already” and it would be roughly the same. I did not take you to the lake to try to form a bond, I took you because I knew you. Cammy did not come to you looking to split up Dan and Sam because you were this social mastermind, she did it because she knew you. Jose didn’t vote for me instead of Devon because you were so persuasive, he did it because he knew you.

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<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">Blatant Hypocrisy

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">For the person that claims to be against circlejerks, it must be pretty convenient to use all the pre-game relationships you had to your advantage, but I guess it’s only a bad thing when the person you like doesn’t get their way.

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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">Lies in your speech

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">I know you’re not stupid, so the fact that you’re not choosing to own up makes me think you’re so confident in how you played that you can lie in your speech and still win regardless. Your claim that you only started to have second thoughts about me was during our call when I joked about cutting you is 100% false and you know it, because you were turning people against me the entire time. You got Jose to vote for me, and told several people about the idol that I only trusted telling you about because of our pre-existing relationship.

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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">“Worked Hard Socially”

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">I feel as though you’re not quite aware of what a social game is, because treating people badly and promising the world to someone only to blindside them is not doing well socially. Maybe if this was a game where a jury didn’t exist, but I’m sure you were very confident in your social ability because of your POTS/Fan Favorite awards that you would never shut the fuck up about. You really did not play to the jury at all, considering that a lot of the votes here are going to be made more emotionally, which I don’t think you’ve developed an understanding of what that actually entails. I know for a fact that you’ll be receiving a vote purely because you’re female, so I fail to see how your “social connections” would actually earn you a victory.

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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">Which brings me to my questions. As a prerequisite, I will be providing you a list of things that if you say, you will immediately lose my vote. <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">--
 * <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">Opening with a compliment
 * <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">“It’s just a game”/”It’s nothing personal”
 * <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">“I didn’t use pre-existing relationships”
 * <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">“It was strategy”

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri;font-size:12pt;font-weight:400;white-space:pre-wrap;">1: Why did you think it was a good idea to put people on the jury who very clearly played a large amount with their emotions and trying to act like you were this mastermind when most of what you did can be summed up as using a pre-existing relationship to advance you further, rather than actually owning up to being a shitty person and trying to rectify some things that way?

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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> <span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-weight:400;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;">2: What reason do I have to vote for a gamebot, something that I, as well as several other jurors, do not respect at all?

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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri;font-size:12pt;font-weight:400;white-space:pre-wrap;">3: I’ll throw in a gameplay related one. What exactly is the strategy in keeping Cammy at the F7 vote when she’s the best challenge player after Sam, and the biggest threat to win if she makes it to the end? Your goals just happened to line up with hers? Or, was it maybe because you and Cammy already knew each other, while Devon and Felipe already knew each other, so you just rode that as far as you could? Why are circlejerks only bad if your friends lose but an acceptable strategy if it’s in your favor?

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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri;font-size:12pt;font-weight:400;white-space:pre-wrap;">4: Did you have to try to be fake as you were, or did it just happen naturally because that’s the type of person you are? <span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-weight:400;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;"> <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">---

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">Devon:

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">--

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">Let’s start with some… positives, I guess? You were playing a pretty decent game on swapped Jinan, having Blake and Jose pretty well around you at the beginning, before I turned Jose on you with your inconsistencies and giving information to Blake about the alliance of 3, which Blake told me about afterwards, if the mutiny didn’t happen and we had to go to tribal I’m very confident in saying you were next to leave. But, that’s not really here nor there as far as what ended up going down. That’s roughly where the positives end for me, because after that you were basically a non-entity that secluded himself within his alliance and never spoke to anyone outside of it. I’ll keep this one shorter, because I honestly don’t have a ton of things to say about you, because you were pretty much invisible and frankly kind of irrelevant.

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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">Again, a couple prerequisite things that will lose my vote if you say them <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">--
 * <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">“I was busy with finals”
 * <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">“I was working”
 * <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">“My strategy was UTR”

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri;font-size:12pt;font-weight:400;white-space:pre-wrap;">1: Have you ever considered a career in stand-up comedy, because I got a pretty big laugh when you claimed your strength was in your social connections. What exactly was strong about your social game when you never attempted to talk to anyone outside of your alliance? Sure, you got to the end, but why are you not then just seen as a goat because you never bothered to interact with anyone?

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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> <span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-weight:400;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;">2: I’d like you to tell me something you know about me that you learned from a conversation we’ve had. It can be anything. I am not allowing things that other people told to you or things said in tribe chats.

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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> 3: <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri;font-size:12pt;font-weight:400;white-space:pre-wrap;">Where exactly did you play as hard as you could? You claimed to have all of this information, but you never bothered to do anything with it, so why should being in-the-know matter when it looks like you got dragged to the end by someone that’s better at the game than you?

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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> <span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-weight:400;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;">4: Are you satisfied with knowing that every vote you get won’t be in your favor, but just votes against Ally?

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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> <span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-weight:400;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;">Deuces, dorks. <ac_metadata title="Jake&#039;s Jury Speech"> </ac_metadata>